The Last of Us 2 PC Port Wrapped Up Development More Than Six Months Ago, Report Claims

They may be waiting to put it in the next State of Play to disappoint once more!

I still haven't gotten around to playing Part 2 but I would definitely finally play it on PC.

Why it is included in state of plays i will never no. Make a blog post or put it in a pc showcase event

Most likely waiting to launch it alongside S2 of the show.

I would assume it's because ghost of Tsushima just released on PC and they can't have 2 of their games releasing too close together. And there's also god of war coming next. I guess they are just waiting for the right time. Maybe after god of war or whatever else they have planned for PC release.

Hermen Hulst said their single player PC strategy is to convince people to buy sequels on PS. So if they timed the PC release of TLoU 2 with season 2 of the TV show, that would suggest TLoU 3 is the next Naughty Dog game for PS5.

Hope there's a chance to buy the No Return mode separately at a cheaper price on PC.

@Grumblevolcano According to Druckmann TLOU 3 is not their next game.

Wow TLOU and God of War are the biggest reasons i buy a PS console. With them on PC and now both Sony and MS being a 3rd party publisher on PC it might be time for me to go PC and have all my games in one place. Plus i like sitting close to the screen, even tho it’s bad for the eyes. Haha

@Grumblevolcano it’s the same way MS is saying we will bring Gears of War collection to PS5 along with Halo MCC to get players excited for the new installments that will only be on Xbox and PC. That ain’t going to work and nether is this. PC gamers wait, they don’t care to pay for online and buy a weaker box. Heck they even wait for games to leave the epic games store and come to Steam. This strategy is DOA and within a few years Sony will be day and date on PC. Can’t blame them for just dipping their toes in. But i remember the days on this site when people said Sony won’t do PC. Now they have trophies and games coming all the time. Exclusives outside of Nintendo are almost dead and we ain’t even to the 10th gen where i said everything will be on PC. Consoles simply don’t sell enough games at the full $70 to make back costs.

@HonestHick it's funny that you say that because A LOT of people with a pc has a ps5 and every time a new ps5 exclusive comes out there is more people buying a ps5. So no, obviously the strat of they are going to buy a ps5 for sure is not going to work but the fact that they have this ready and it isn't out yet means they weren't actually serious when they said that, they only said that to not say "Yeah well, Sony economy depends on hardware and has been depending on ps hardware since 2013 when we almost go bankrupt so if posible we want to keep selling consoles". They already know games cost too much (even when they aren't losing money, they just aren't making billions back) but what are they going to do? Cancel the games they already have started to start cheaper games from 0? That's just not going to happen ... a lot of time will pass before watching any kind of change there.

Also i think is cool pc players can wait, having the confidence to be alive in two years to play a game or to be alive 8 more years to play any game day one in this world that can end any day. That must be nice. I don't have that confidence so buying the cheap, weak and limited box to play the games I actually want to play without waiting doesn't sound like a terrible idea LOL.

HBO The Last of Us season 2, why would they release it before that?

They're waiting for that product placement deal with Titelist.

@Grumblevolcano I still think Hulsts strategy is pure insanity. They're trying to make PS like Nintendo where PC owners also buy Nintendos, but PS already wants too much to be a PC with the same content other than their 1 exclusive a year, it just can't work like Nintendo, unless they have a $300 PS6 waiting. Most PC owners aren't going to just by a "second, worse PC" to play a handful of sequels on, worse.

To work like Nintendo, MK8 ten billion copies aside, you need to spend no more on your games than a mobile studio does And hope it's strong enough to sell hardware. PS really has NOTHING of that calibur. Anyone that cared about their IPs already owns their consoles.

PS has an over-inflated view of themselves. Yes, they're a good publisher with some strong games, but their "system seller" days are kind of done, except to the faithful that are already on their platform. I remember when FFX came out and the PC world was enamored with that game, and the heavily subsidized hardware that made their PC look like junk for more money. That doesn't happen with PS5, and their PC game sales are decent, but tepid. Of course it's late ports.

Heck the reality is the games that light up PC have mostly always been old games. And that's now true on the consoles too. Somehow Nintendo just exists in a separate reality. Even the money men can't figure them out.

@HonestHick I noticed GoT Director's is now $30 on PS. A 58% sale. Sony never runs 50% sales anymore. Interesting timing after it launched on PC at $50 and was already on sale for $60 and can already be found for $45. Keeping PS the "cheaper" place to play is kind of funny in context.

I still keep debating about a PC build. I LOVE my Legion. But then even a "high-midrange" PC build runs upward of $2k vs a $500 console. Granted that build blows the console away, but even a "basically the same but a little better" build is like $1500. Hard call being trapped in MS/PS walled gardens or going down that bottomless pit of spending on hardware. OTOH, if MS is done with subsidy, either the prices will skyrocket or the hardware will be Nintendo-like (old), and Sony will just charge more for doing what they would have done anyway.

The GOAT. No Return is sooo underrated, I haven't heard a peep about that mode in the mainstream and it is very fun and addicting.
They're gonna release it alongside season 2 of the HBO show, I think.

@NEStalgia i don’t expect consoles from the big 3 to go away but they will use mobile, and PC way more to offset costs. PC is just easy money to no longer support. Which is good, i like that gamers have more options now than ever.

@GymratAmarillo i still can’t understand why PC gamers don’t want to make a PSN account if they already have a PS5. I agree waiting to play a game seems silly, but they do it…. Like all the time.

@HonestHick I think it's still a confusing time. Unppopular or no, Phil was accurate talking about the economics of console subsidy. Whether or not MS intends to jack up prices and end the subsidy or not, consoles are in a weird place right now, because the business model for all of them is 100% build around the 1990's economics of computer electronics hardware. Nintendo builds consoles that cost next to nothing to build using ancient tech in innovative ways. That's their whole model. But mobile APUs no longer just drop in price like the old days of hardware. Which is why they're waiting 7 (8?) years for a new console. PS is the inventor of the hardware subsidy model. But if they're going to keep subsidizing hardware build for a graphical arms race they admit even they can't afford to sate anymore......they're going to have to nickel and dime customers far more than they are now. They're basically not turning a profit as they are. And that's as the near monopoly market leader. The whole model broke.

Meanwhile on PC, a good video card costs more than the entire console, because as it turns out making a profit on hardware means it has to be pretty expensive. Sony kind of messed up in a similar but different way Xbox did, long ago. PS2, PS3 going so deep into giving people free computers so they buy their games (HEAVY subsidy), trained consumers to expect these super impressive graphics computers called consoles which in the real world of selling things for profit, most people couldn't afford the hardware these consoles offer. In the old days by year 2 the hardware would be half price to make and would pull in tons of money anyway. Basically in PC, you're paying the real price for your hardware, and as it turns out, powerful graphics machines aren't affordable by most people. Consoles sold those machines cheap enough for most people to afford, but the change to hardware not halfing in price every other year to make, and the cost of games quintupling to justify the hardware, means selling hardware at cost and then a stream of games is kind of a break-even business nobody makes money in.

IDK I think PC will continue to be ever more unaffordable for "new" type stuff (but dirt cheap if you want to play PS3 into PS4 era games better than ever at 1080p which is I think where the market REALLY is right now) and I think bad things are going to keep getting worse in console because the money isn't really working. It's too expensive compared to the past, but their costs of gone up so much they're making little margin.

Business-wise, Nintendo has the right of it. But do we all want to live on old hardware and mobile games forever? I have a PSVR2 for that.

@NEStalgia @HonestHick I think Sony's current PC strategy is centralized around GTA6. Rockstar are infamous for treating PC as an afterthought so Sony's logic is probably that PC players will buy PS5 for GTA6 and then as they have the system anyway, they may as well play PS Studios games on PS5 instead of waiting.

Not sure it'll play out like that though, could end up being that PC players buy PS5 for GTA6 and then use it just as a GTA6 machine with PS Studios games still bought on PC.

Ragnarok next for the PC gamers isn't it.
Wouldn't want to spoil them with too many games at once.

@NEStalgia for sure Nintendo has it right for them just not us. I mean i love their games but never in the 7 years of Switch did i buy a 3rd party game on it. It’s 100% an exclusive machine for me. It works for me and i got my money and time worth out of it. MS will be the one making all the money cause they have the software to do it now with ABK and others and they aren’t afraid to be on every and all screens. PS is hurting themselves in the long run if they continue to pay Marvel and be more closed off with their software. It’s funny to see some on here saying what Phil did and not even realize it or acknowledge it. But it’s true consoles aren’t growing and haven’t been in a long time. Costs are insane and not looking to come down anytime soon. Like you well explained there just isn’t a solution to it at the moment.

@Grumblevolcano thats a well thought out plan. Could work. I like that. 😀

@HonestHick The PSN login thing is multi-dimensional. Yes, lots of other publishers do it, but people are ALSO unhappy about that. You use a store/DRM platform like Steam to have access to your content. And more and more you then have to have a SECOND laucnher with a SECOND login for every. single. publisher. Buy games from 20 publishers? Have logins on 20 different launchers! It's like subscriptions, people are tired of it. It also means things like Steam Family Sharing automatically doesn't work because of the login binding the license to one PSN ID (which is I think a big reason they do it, DRM on top of the DRM (But then they release DRM-free eventually on GOG? Or at least used to, doubt they still will, it's so weird for Sony to do that.) Then you have that PSN logins aren't available where PS consoles aren't sold. Which......kind of defeats the whole point of expanding the market on PC? Plus people really just don't trust Sony. Not that they should trust EA but Sony has just rubbed people the wrong way with their draconian history. PC gamers never got over Sony Music/RIAA shennanigans in the 90s. And really, nobody should ever forget that. Sony's the company that decided breaking customer's hardware knowingly was ok in the persuit of their IP protection .

@GymratAmarillo @HonestHick PC exists on a different time cadence to console. It has its own bulwarks of evergreens that either don't exist on console or are unpopular on console that puts even Mario kart to shame. Because "Backwards compatible" is default, not a feature old games aren't "old" they're current. Quake 1, Starcraft, Skyrim for that matter, are still mainstream current games on PC. They never really faded. But they enhanced with the hardware over the years. Console's getting closer to that reality as well (GTA5, etc, etc.)

Remember, PS is really the root of the modern "console" as the consoles have spent 3 gens trying to catch up to PC and adopt all the PC things. So in the PC world, console's the weird offshoot thing, and the PC cycle is the natural cycle while Sony just tries to dip in and out and preserve their hardware empire.

It's not just PC though. Nintendo players are also used to waiting and paying full price for a game that's "new to the platform". Xbox players are also used to waiting for ports of Nintendo/PS games that are "new." FFXIV just launched 10 years late lol (but still not on Nintendo). Even on PS, Octopath, Sea of Thieves, probably more future MS games that come to PS a bit later, people on every platform are used to some waiting. But for PC players that don't have a PS5, they're not waiting, the series "started" later, and thus releases sequels later but "on time". And if they wait too long to release the sequel, people will just move on anyway.

If someone was SUPER into PS franchises they already have the PS5. If someone's only casually interested in PS games but not enough to buy a console next to their PC, getting to try a better version of the game 4 years after console isn't a "wait" really.

@Grumblevolcano You may be right that's the plan. Honestly when the console business model hinges around GTA it makes me really feel out of place being in console at all lol. I honstly don't know why Rockstar treats PC as they do. I've always assumed it had something to do with their Sony relationship. It surely isn't their Xbox relationship.

I wonder if GTA is really a major deal to PC players at all though. Seems like the whole GTA phenomenon is primarily bait for kids and consoles. And really mostly a PS thing. I think GTAV sales came out to something like more than 50% on PS, 15% or so on PC....it's certainly a powerhouse for PC, but is it going to draw much PC audience to buy a PS?

I also still wonder if GTA6 is going to be a massive sales crisis. I'm not sure if GTA5's enduring popularity is because people adore everything GTA, or if it's because "everybody else plays GTA5" and the player base will still stick with the old one for a long while. Teenagers that bought GTAV are worried about retirement planning now

@NEStalgia I agree, and I don't regarding the cost of a PC compared to a console. A PC is definitely more money up front. Especially if you want a 4070ti Super and up...but there are plenty of cards that play at 1440 or 4k just fine at the $300-400 mark.

Playstation is generally $500ish at launch. Peripherals are getting more expensive (and more cheaply made, I may add). And PS Plus is $80/year for the BASE tier. Clearly, given the metrics that Sony just provided shareholders, there are plenty of people getting one of the higher tiers. So over a 5-8 year wait for the next console you just spent an additional $400-640 on that same console.

In this light, the PC is more money up front but still comparable in price over the life of the product. That being said, there is definitely an up side to the simplicity of a plug n play system

I hear they cancelled it because nobody likes the story.

Instead, they want to dedicate themselves to a new, secret multiplayer game involving different factions at war.

The ironic thing is the man that made the decision to change course perished in a golf accident.

@Grumblevolcano or they use Xbox cloud streaming for a few months to play GTA6 and wait for the better PC version a year later. It won’t run as well but it’s an option. I know a few friends that have a Xbox and PC and i always thought would would you have both but they do. Now that PS games are coming to PC and all of their state of play minus one game was multiplat, they are in the Xbox camp now of how bad do i need the hardware.

@NEStalgia Again i know this to be true. Certain PC gamers will wait for a game to leave the epic store and come to steam. I think they will wait for Last of us 3 or whatever Sony title. Also i don’t think that will make enough money for Sony in the long haul and around PS6 they will be day and date on PC anyways. I’ve seen many PC gamers say thats what they think will happen and they have no problem waiting. So i ain’t sure it’s a good strategy but i understand Sony wanting to go in slow on it. Even tho they see the cash MS makes being day and date on PC. Lots more changes coming to the industry as it shifts into this new world of cost and changing customer buying habits.

@HonestHick A year seems optimistic considering the RDR1 situation. I could honestly see Rockstar release a Switch 2 port of GTA6 before PC.